CM: Yeah.
LA: I’m a carry on girl now.
CM: Yeah.
LA: I take minimal things.
CM: My one thing that I just can’t seem to get my head around, and it wouldn’t … it’s such a vanity thing, and I, I just can’t do it, is running shoes. I can’t wear them on the plane.
LA: Oh, me too.
CM: I just can’t do it, and they take up so much room. And it’s so silly because the, like, pair of loafers I’m wearing on the plane would be much easier to pack, but I, I just, uh, I don’t know. I, I also, I very … I wear running shoes that I like because they support my feet but not because I like the way they look. So I’m just
LA: No, I have the complete same thing, and I … I recently was on a work trip to Istanbul and crammed my running shoes, which honestly didn’t even use the whole trip, um, into my suitcase ’cause I didn’t wanna wear them
CM: Yeah.
LA: … on the plane. And they took up really valuable real estate.
CM: I know.
LA: And I was even wearing sneakers on the plane.
CM: I know.
LA: I just … But I was wearing
CM: I know.
LA: … my cool ones.
CM: Exactly. No, no, it’s a hu- And then you see the, like, 28-year-old bros who tie their sneakers, their running shoes to their backpack or their suitcase, and I can’t be that person. But I get it. So the running shoes is a problem for me, but that’s an extremely important … Like, some of my favorite memories visiting places are running alone discovering that place the morning of my interview.
LA: Interesting. Do you think that’s because it’s … I’ve … I find running really meditative, so I imagine, like, if you’re kind of, like … you’re, you’re wanting to, like, relax and get into the sense of the place, but you also wanna relax before you’re doing a big interview.
CM: Yeah. For me, it’s also geographic. Like, because of Google Maps, it’s very rare now that I go to a place, and I have to map out where I’m going ’cause I’m getting in a taxi, or an Uber, or someone’s picking me up. And it’s such a nice way to understand the layout of a city, especially a, like, a walkable, a runnable city. It’s, like, you have to actually know where you’re going. You have to get back to your hotel. So I am … I mean, in Oaxaca, it was, like, I did a 30-minute run, and I had seen all of downtown Oaxaca. I knew then where I wanted to go back to when I did my, like, sightseeing morning, later that day. Like, it was almost … It’s almost like a prep trip. It’s like you’re going out, you’re canvassing what needs to be seen later, and that i- I find very important, and it’s always the memories I think back of, back to.
